[♪♪] GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO KENTUCKY TONIGHT.

I'M RENEE SHAW.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

OUR TOPIC TONIGHT: NATIONAL POLITICS.

WE ARE JUST ONE WEEK AWAY FROM LABOR DAY, THE UNOFFICIAL KICKOFF TO THE FALL CAMPAIGN.

THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION ENDED LAST THURSDAY, SO THE TWO TICKETS ARE SET FOR THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.

IT’S ALREADY BEEN AN ELECTION YEAR FULL OF SURPRISES.

JUST ONE MONTH AGO, PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN ENDED HIS REELECTION BID, TURNING THE RACE UPSIDE DOWN.

TO DISCUSS WHERE WE ARE NOW, AND WHAT TO EXPECT BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER FIFTH, WE’RE JOINED IN OUR LEXINGTON STUDIO BY: K.C.

CROSBIE, THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE TREASURER; AND JARED SMITH, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST AND PARTNER AT PIPER-SMITH.

JOINING US BY SKYPE: ABBY PIPER, FOUNDER AND MANAGING PARTNER OF PIPER-SMITH; AND DAVID TANDY, PARTNER WITH THE DENTONS LAW FIRM, WITH A PRACTICE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PUBLIC POLICY, AND THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL.

WELCOME TO ALL OUR GUESTS.

ORDINARILY, KENTUCKY TONIGHT IS LIVE.

BUT THIS PROGRAM WAS TAPED IN ADVANCE ON FRIDAY, AUGUST 23RD.

IF THERE WAS ANY BIG POLITICAL NEWS OVER THE WEEKEND, WE WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING IT ON TONIGHT’S PROGRAM.

MAN, WE ARE OFF AND RUNNING NOW THAT WE HAVE THE CONVENTIONS BEHIND US.

THE TIME WE TAPED OUR DISCUSSION JUST AN HOUR BEFORE WE STARTED THE TAPING WE REFERENCED THAT ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.

SUSPENDED HIS CAMPAIGN AND ENDORSED DONALD TRUMP.

WHAT DOES AN R.F.K.

JR. DO FOR DOBB DON.

>> IT IS FAB-TASTIC NEWS HE WOULD BE REMOVING HIS NAME OFF THE BALLOT AND WHERE HIS POLLING IS IT WILL BE TREMENDOUS AND POSITIVE FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP.

I THINK HE COMPLETELY IN ONE PRESS CONFERENCE EVISCERATED THE WEEK OF THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION WITH THE COMMENTS HE MADE AND THE BALLOT ACCESS ISSUES HE HAD AND THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH ISSUES HE HAS HAD AND I'M EXCITED TO HAVE HIM ON OUR TEAM.

>> Renee: WHEN A CANDIDATE SAYS HE IS SUSPENDING HIS CAMPAIGN BUT NOT TAKING OFF THE NAME OF THE BALLOT IN CERTAIN STATES HOW DOES THAT WORK?

>> IN SOME STATES PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR HIM.

IN A STATE LIKE KENTUCKY PEOPLE CAN MAKE THE CHOICE FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR WHO THEY WANTED TO INCLUDING R.F.K.

AND STATES LIKE GEORGIA, NEVADA, ARIZONA, PENNSYLVANIA MICHIGAN THEY WANT TO HAVE THE OPTION TO VOTE FOR HIM.

HOPEFULLY THE VOTES WILL TRANSLATE INTO VOTES FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP.

>> Renee: DO YOU EXPECT A BOUNCE FROM THAT ENDORSEMENT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS COME OUT WITH THE STATEMENT AND SHOWN HOW IT WILL IMPACT THE ELECTION AND WE ARE EXCITED.

>> Renee: JARED FIRST YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT DEVELOPMENT AT THE TIME WE RECORDED THIS PROGRAM AND IN GENERAL HOW DO YOU THINK THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION WENT AND WHAT BOUNCE DID THE HARRIS-WALZ TICKET GET FROM THE CONVENTION?

>> EVERYBODY GETS A BOUNCE AFTER THE CONVENTION.

THEY WILL GET A BOUNCE AND THE NUMBERS WILL SETTLE MID-SEPTEMBER YOU WILL GET A HORSERACE PICTURE OF THIS RACE.

R.F.K.

JR. HIS FATHER IS MY POLITICAL IDOL.

HE OBVIOUSLY DID NOT FOLLOW THE PATH HIS FATHER DID.

I THINK IT DOES HURT THE DEMOCRATS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE DEMOCRATS THAT WERE WITH R.F.K.

JR. BECAUSE OF BIDEN WHEN HARRIS BECAME THE NOMINEE THEY CAME HOME.

BUT THE REPUBLICANS ARE THE ONES WHO STAYED WE'LL SEE IF THEY COME HOME NOW.

I THOUGHT THE CONVENTION WAS AMAZING.

I HAVE NOT SEEN ENERGY LIKE THAT SINCE OBAMA.

NANCY PELOSI CHANTING THANK YOU JOE IS MY BOSS ATTENDING THE FUNERAL.

JUST THAT WAS A SURREAL MOMENT.

YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE JOHN AND THE ROLL CALL IS THE HIGHLIGHT FOR ME AND THE CONVENTION, JUST A PARTY IT WAS ONE BIG PARTY AND THE DEMOCRATIC BASE HAS BEEN SHOCKED BACK TO LIFE.

AND HAS A NEW LIFE AND EVERYBODY IS EXCITED AND UNITED WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

>> Renee: DO YOU SEE IT THAT WAY?

HOW LONG WILL THE HOUSE PARTY QUOTE-UNQUOTE LAST FOR THE DEMOCRATS ONCE IT'S OVERDOSE EVERYBODY LOSE THE ENTHUSIASM THAT THEY TRIED TO RALLY DURING THE CONVENTION?

>> WELL, ONE, I WILL TELL YOU THIS.

I THINK ANY POLITICAL PARTY CONVENTION, REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT, IS REALLY MORE OF A BIG RALLY FOR THE PARTY ITSELF.

IT'S LIKE I CALL IT LIKE GOING TO HOMECOMING FOR "POLITICO"S IF YOU WILL.

YOU GO AND YOU SEE YOUR FRIENDS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT YOU HADN'T SEEN BEFORE AND YOU GET TO RECONNECT AND THEN YOU GET TO REENERGIZE AND REFOCUS ON THE MISSION AHEAD.

YOU SAW THAT AT THE REPUBLICAN OR ATTEMPTS OF THAT BEING DONE AT THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION.

AND YOU SAW THAT PAN OUT THIS WEEK AT THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE A TREMENDOUS BOUNCE THAT WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE PLACE AS IT RELATES TO KAMALA HARRIS AND TIM WALZ BEING AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET FOR THE DEMOCRATS.

IT IS REENERGIZING AND REINVIGORATING A NUMBER OF THE DEMOCRATIC BASE AND SUPPORTERS OF THE PARTY.

AND YOU ARE STARTING TO JARED'S POINT I WAS THERE IN THE HALL.

THE ENERGY THAT YOU FELT WAS LIKE IT WAS 2008 AGAIN IN TERMS OF THE ENERGY AND THE EXCITEMENT AND THE ENTHUSIASM AND WHAT THAT TRANSLATES INTO TO THE POINT TO WHERE WE WERE ACTUALLY HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH DIFFERENT STATES ON HOW WE CAN TAKE VOLUNTEERS FROM SAY, OTHER STATES THAT MAY NOT BE TARGET STATES LIKE A KENTUCKY AND WHERE DO WE SEND VOLUNTEERS FROM KENTUCKY TO SWING STATES AND OTHER STATES TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE INCLUDING STATES LIKE OHIO OR INDIANA WHERE WE HAVE CONTESTED SENATE RACES THAT ARE GOING ON TO WHERE WE ARE LOOKING TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN OUR MAJORITIES IN THE SENATE AND TAKE BACK THE HOUSE LIKE UP IN NEW YORK STATE AND OTHER PLACES TO WHERE WE CAN TAKE BACK THE HOUSE AND HAVE HAKEEM JEFFERIES BECOME SPEAKER JEFFERIES.

SO THERE WAS A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM THERE.

THERE WAS A LOT OF I WOULD SAY FOR THE BROADER PUBLIC IT WAS AN INTRODUCTION TO WHO KAMALA HARRIS IS AND WHO TIM WALZ IS.

WHO THEY ARE AS PEOPLE.

AND IT ALLOWED FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE VERY STARK CONTRAST BETWEEN THE TWO CAMPAIGNS AND THE TWO TICKETS.

AND TO THEN ALLOW FOR VOTERS TO START TO DECIDE WHAT DIRECTION DO WE WANT OUR COUNTRY TO GO IN GOING FORWARD.

>> Renee: ABBY PIPER, WISDOM IS THAT DEMOCRATS ARE SQUARELY BEHIND THE HARRIS-WALZ TICKET AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE BEHIND THE TRUMP-VANCE TICKET AND WHERE ARE THE INDEPENDENTS AND THE UNDECIDEDS?

AFTER OF THE CONVENTIONS ARE OVER AND THEY ARE NOW, WHERE DO YOU THINK THEY ARE GOING TO GO?

>> YES, SO I THINK THAT SOME OF THE INDEPENDENTS THAT WERE LEANING TOWARD THE R.F.K.

CAMP WILL PROBABLY LAND AT HOME WITH TRUMP.

AND I THINK THE VAST MAJORITY OF INDEPENDENTS TODAY THE FASTEST GROWING PARTY IN THE COUNTRY IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A GENERAL DISSATISFACTION WITH POLITICIANS AND POLITICS GENERALLY.

I THINK THE GREATER QUESTION IS HOW MANY INDEPENDENTS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE.

YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF INDEPENDENTS THAT WILL VOTE FOR LOCAL ELECTIONS AND PEOPLE THEY KNOW BUT MAY NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE PRESIDENTIAL BALLOT.

>> Renee: THAT IS INTERESTING.

HOW DOES THE TRUMP-VANCE TICKET TRY TO GET THE PERSUADABLES PERHAPS TO COME TO THE REPUBLICAN SIDE OF THINGS?

>> WELL, I THINK Mr. TANDY AND I CAN AGREE GOING BACK TO A POINT HE MADE THERE COULDN'T HAVE BEEN A BIGGER CONTRAST BETWEEN CONVENTIONS.

I WAS AT THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION AND WE WERE THERE CONDUCTING THE BUSINESS OF THE PARTY TO NOMINATE PRESIDENT TRUMP WHO DUE ALI WON THE PRIMARY.

AS OUR CANDIDATE WHERE YOU SEE THE DEMOCRATS WHERE THEY JUST CORE NATURED CORRECT NATURED, KAMALA AFTER BIDEN STEPPED DOWN.

SHE HAS NEVER WON ONE ELECTORAL VOTE IN A PRIMARY PROCESS.

AND WE WERE THERE TO DO THE BUSINESS OF WHAT OUR VOTERS TOLD US TO DO.

WE PASSED A PARTY PLATFORM AND WE HEARD ABOUT ISSUES AND HOW WE WERE GOING TO SOLVE PROBLEMS AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE ECONOMY.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE BORDER.

AND YOU KNOW, THE DEMOCRATS ON THE OTHER HAND, HAD A PARTY.

AND THEY HAD NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE THAT THEY DISCUSSED IT WAS A BIG PARTY AND TALKED ABOUT HOW JOYFUL THEY ARE.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE PEOPLE SAW THE STARK DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE REPUBLICANS TALKING ABOUT ISSUES AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO FIX THESE OUT RAGE JUST COSTS THE THE GROCERY STORE AND THE GAS STATION VERSUS BEING JOYFUL.

I KNOW PEOPLE THAT ARE JOYFUL AND IT DOESN'T QUALIFY THEM TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

THERE WAS A STARK CONTRAST BETWEEN THE TWO CONVENTIONS AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE MOVING FORWARD IS THE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO VERY CLEARLY DEFINE KAMALA HARRIS.

REMEMBER, SHE WAS NAMED THE MOST LIBERAL SENATOR IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE.

AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT TIME DEFINING WHO SHE IS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS AND I THINK IT WILL BRING INDEPENDENTS OUR WAY.

>> Renee: LET'S FIRST TALK ABOUT CIRCUMVENTING THE PRIMARY PROCESS.

ARE THERE DEMOCRATS UNEASY ABOUT THAT?

OR HAVE THEY ACCEPTED THE FACT THIS IS WHERE THINGS HAVE LANDED IS THERE DISCORD IN THE PARTY ABOUT THAT?

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

THERE WAS NO DISCORD EVERYBODY IS UNIFIED.

I WILL AGREE THAT THERE IS A STARK CONTRAST BETWEEN THE TWO CONVENTIONS.

ONE CONVENTION HELD UP SIGNS SAID MASS DEPORTATION AND THE OTHER CONVENTION SAID U.S.A. AND CHANTED.

IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE THE PATRIOTISM SWING BACK TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

USUALLY THAT IS ALWAYS REPUBLICANS' STRONGHOLD BUT WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY ABOUT TRUMP WHEN HE MAKES IT ABOUT HIMSELF IT'S HARD TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO BE OPEN AND PATRIOTIC TO EVERYBODY, THEY DO HAVE TO DO BUSINESS.

OUR BUSINESS WAS DONE.

WE NOMINATED THE VICE-PRESIDENT.

H BEFORE THE CONVENTION STARTED.

WE CAN HAVE A PARTY NOW NOW AND THEN.

>> Renee: DAVID TANDY YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING?

>> I DID.

THE ONE POINT I DID WANT TO MAKE WAS I'VE HEARD SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE MAKING AS IT RELATES TO INDEPENDENTS AND THINKING THAT INDEPENDENTS ARE ALL GOING TO SWING TO DONALD TRUMP.

AND I COULDN'T DISAGREE WITH THAT MORE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT INDEPENDENTS NOW, ABBEY NOTED THAT INDEPENDENTS ARE LIKE ONE OF THE LARGER GROWING REGISTRANTS IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS.

AND IN LARGE PART, WHAT I'M SEEING AS A RESULT OF THAT, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE GEN Z AND YOUNGER CROWD MY KIDS, THAT ARE LIKE IN THE 20s, 18'S COMING-OF-AGE NOW IN THE FIRST POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS, THEY ARE CHOOSING TO BECOME INDEPENDENTS MORE SO NOT BECAUSE OF ONE PARTY OR THE OTHER.

BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE ONES THAT TYPICALLY DON'T JOIN THINGS TO BE JOINING THINGS.

THEY ARE MORE ABOUT TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT ARE THE ISSUES WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS OF CONCERN AND IMPORTANCE TO ME.

AND THEN MAKE A DECISION THAT WAY AS OPPOSED TO BEING TIED TO A PARTICULAR LABEL ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUES AND THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT AT THE CONVENTION IT'S ONE THING IS ALWAYS TRUE.

CAMPAIGNS ARE WON BY THOSE CANDIDATES WHO TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE AND TALK ABOUT A POSITIVE PATH FORWARD VERSUS THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO JUST TO STAKE OUT GRIEVANCE AND TRY TO ALWAYS SPEAKING ABOUT HOW THEY ARE TEARING THINGS DOWN OR HOW TERRIBLE THINGS ARE.

IT'S ONE THING TO DO A CONTRAST WHERE YOU CAN SAY MY OPPONENT BELIEVES X, Y AND Z AND BELIEVES THAT THE BEST KAYS ARE BEHIND US.

BUT I BELIEVE, THAT OUR BEST DAYS ARE AHEAD AND HERE IS HOW WE MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER IN THAT REGARD.

THAT'S HOW YOU RUN A CAMPAIGN THAT IS WHAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE DOING.

I HEARD NONE OF THAT AT THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION.

AS A MATTER OF FACT HE KEPT ROLLING OUT TIRED OLD ARGUMENT AFTER TIRED OLD ARGUMENT WHY YOU SAW VOTER APATHY AS IT RELATED TO THIS RACE YOU HAD A REHASH OF 2020.

IN THIS CASE GOING FORWARD YOU HAVE A CLEAR AND STARK CHOICE TO BE MADE.

YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE OLD PAST AND WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED FROM 2016-2020 WHEN DONALD TRUMP WAS IN OFFICE AND THE CHAOS AND CONFUSION THAT TOOK PLACE IN KENTUCKY AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

OR YOU CAN CHOOSE A NEW PATH GOING FORWARD WITH KAMALA HARRIS AND TIM WALZ WHERE WE DID SEE CONTINUED GROWTH.

WE DID SEE THE CLEANUP OF THE MESSES THAT TOOK PLACE DURING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

WHICH IS TYPICAL FOR WHAT YOU SEE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN DEMOCRATS HAVE TO COME IN OFFICE WE ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE TO COME IN AND CLEAN UP THE MESSES MADE FROM BEFORE.

AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS AND IN THIS RACE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A CLEAR CONTRAST BETWEEN THE TWO.

AND YOU KNOW IT'S ONE THING WHEN I WAS PLAYING FOOTBALL, THE GAMES WE DID THE BEST IN WAS WHEN WE WERE HAVING FUN AND ENJOYING WHAT WE WERE DOING.

THAT IS WHEN WE GOT THE MOST WORK DONE AND WHAT YOU WILL SEE HERE YOU WILL SEE TURNOUT COME OUT IN WAYS TO CONSIDER STATES THAT WERE NOT IN PLAY BEFORE WILL BE IN PLAY.

I'M IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA RIGHT NOW.

GEORGIA'S IN PLAY.

AND IN GEORGIA GOES BACK TO THE DEMOCRATIC COLUMN LIKE IT DID BEFORE, DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO HAVE MORE PROBLEMS TO DEAL WITH THAN WHETHER OR NOT HE WON OR LOST AN ELECTION.

>> .

>> Renee: ABBY PIPER I WANT TO ASK YOU.

WHAT IS AT STAKE IN THIS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION CYCLE?

WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE ARE THE MOTIVATING ISSUES OR IS IT PERSONALITY DRIVEN WHO DO YOU THINK WILL MOVE PEOPLE TO THE POLLS WHETHER INDEPENDENT OR SWING VOTERS WHAT ARE THEY MOTIVATED BY?

>> I THINK WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE DATA MOST, PARTICULARLY WOMEN ARE MOTIVATED TO GO TO THE POLLS SOME FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THEIR LIVES BECAUSE THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE POLICIES THAT ARE BEING PASSED ABOUT WOMEN THAT DIRECTLY IMPACT OUR LIVES.

AND THAT IS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.

THAT IS A BIG, BIG DRIVER.

I WILL NOTE THAT TO DAVID'S COMMENT, IN THE INDEPENDENT PARTY, RESEARCH IS SHOWING THE MAJORITY ARE LESTER LEANING THERE IS A DYNAMIC TO CONSIDER.

I THINK THE OTHER QUESTION AT HAND IS REALLY IDENTIFYING WHO IS REALLY ON THE BALLOT.

WE'VE SEEN ONE KAMALA.

KAMALA IS KAMALA FOR THE MOST PART.

WE'VE SEEM A COUPLE DIFFERENT DONALD TRUMP'S OVER THE YEARS AND THAT LEADS VOTERS TO WONDER WHICH ONE ARE WE GOING TO GET?

ARE WE GOING TO GET THE CALM, COLLECTED, STRATEGIC, EFFECTIVE GRASSROOTS ENERGETIC CANDIDATE THAT DONALD TRUMP CAN BE?

OR IS HE GOING TO BE THE MISOGYNISTIC, OFFENSIVE BRASH CHARACTER THAT HE ALSO CAN BE.

THE QUESTION IS WHICH ONE ARE YOU WILLING TO INVEST YOUR VOTE IN THE ONE VOTE YOU GET ON THIS FOR WHO IS GOING TO LEAD THE COUNTRY AND WHICH ONE DO YOU EXPECT TO BE THE ONE THAT CAN LEAD.

>> K.C.

CROSBIE WHICH TRUMP WILL SHOW UP?

WE HEAR IN THE MEDIA WHETHER THAT IS CONSERVATIVE OUTLETS OR OTHERS THAT TALK ABOUT HOW MAYBE THE CAMPAIGN IS TRYING TO GET HIM TO GO ONE WAY AND THEN PERHAPS HE VEERS INTO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

WHAT IS THAT TENSION DOING TO THAT CAMPAIGN EFFORT?

>> I COMPLETELY DISAGREE.

I DON'T SEE TWO DIFFERENT DONALD TRUMP'S.

I SEE A DONALD TRUMP WHO SAYS WHAT HE MEANS AND DOES WHAT HE SAYS HE IS GOING TO DO.

AND EVERYBODY HAS DIFFERENT WAYS AFTER APPROACHING THINGS.

IT'S INTERESTING THAT ABBEY MENTIONED WE KNOW KAMALA.

I WOULD DISAGREE.

I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT KAMALA, BECAUSE SHE REFUSES TO DO INTERVIEWS AND REFUSES TO TELL PEOPLE WHERE SHE STANDS ON THINGS.

SHE FLIP-FLOPPED ON ISSUES.

DONALD TRUMP SAYS HE WANTS TO DO ONE THING AND SHE SAYS THIS IS MY POSITION NOW I'VE CHANGED MY MIND.

SO, I THINK THAT SHE NEEDS TO BE DEFINED CLEARLY.

WE'VE HAD DONALD TRUMP FOR FOUR YEARS WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO GET FROM DONALD TRUMP WE KNOW WHERE HE STANDS ON THINGS.

LAST WEEK AT THE CONVENTION ALL WE HEARD EVERY NIGHT WAS THE DEMOCRATS REHASHING PROJECT 2025 DONALD TRUMP'S PROJECT.

THAT IS SUCH A LIE.

IT IS SUCH A LIE.

HE HAS DISAVOWED PROJECT 2025.

YES, HE HAS.

>> HE WAS CAUGHT ON TAPE SAYING 2025 IS GOOD.

>> HE DISAVOWED IT AND THEY TALKED ABOUT IT EVERY NIGHT.

THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

YOU CAN LAUGH ALL YOU WANT.

>> IT'S GOING TO COST Y'ALL THE ELECTION.

>> IT IS NOT DONALD TRUMP.

>> YES, IT IS.

HOW MANY STAFFERS ARE MADE UP OF 2025.

>> IT DOESN'T MATTER.

IF THEY WRITE A POSITION THEY ARE NOT REPRESENTING THE CAMPAIGN.

THEY ARE NOT EMPLOYED BY THE CAMPAIGN.

THEY ARE NOT EMPLOYED BY DONALD TRUMP.

HE HAS COME OUT AND DISAVOWED THAT.

WE HAVE A REPUBLICAN PLATFORM THAT STATES WHERE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY STANDS.

ALSO HIS WEBSITE IS CLEAR WHERE HE IS.

ON THE ISSUES.

>> Renee: ONE OF THE ISSUES ON THE TRUMP WEBSITE AND HE DISSEMINATED THIS IS ABOUT HIS PLAN FOR EDUCATION AND ONE IS DISMANTLING THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.

WHICH WAS TALKED ABOUT DURING THE DNC.

DO YOU REFUTE THAT?

AND IT'S MENTIONED IN PROJECT 2025.

THERE IS SOME CORRELATION.

>> THERE IS CORRELATION BETWEEN SOME OF THE ISSUES BUT HE DOES NOT OWN 2025.

>> Renee: SOME OF THE IDEAS MIGHT BE REFLECTED.

>> I HAVE FORMER EMPLOYEES THAT MAY SAY CRAZY THINGS.

I EMPLOYED PEOPLE ON CITY COUNCIL WHO WERE MY AIDES WHO MIGHT GO DIFFERENTLY.

BECAUSE THEY MAKE STATEMENTS OR WRITE POSITION PAPERS DOESN'T MEAN THEY SUPPORT IT.

THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT OF FIXING IN SOME OF THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENTS.

AND JUST BECAUSE THEY HAPPEN TO COME OUT WITH A POSITION AND HE MIGHT SHARE SIMILARITIES WITH THAT POSITION DOES NOT MEAN HE SUPPORTS 2025.

>> HE WAS CAUGHT ON TAPE I'M SORRY.

>> THAT -- THERE COULD BE POINTS THAT ABSOLUTELY BE PULLED FROM IT.

BUT HE DOES NOT SUPPORT PROJECT 2025.

>> Renee: ABBY PIPER?

>> WELL, I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THERE IS THIS IDEA AFTER THE CONVENTIONS THAT EVERYONE IS UNIFIED.

FRANKLY I DON'T BELIEVE THE REPUBLICANS ARE AS UNIFIED AS THEY APPEAR FRANKLY.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THE MOMENTUM BEHIND THE NIKKI HALEY AND WHILE SHE DID NOT MAKE THE BALLOT AND HONESTLY UNDERPERFORMED MISERABLELY THE MOMENTUM WAS THERE.

AND I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE RNC PLATFORM THAT THEY RELEASED EARLIER, THIS FALL IT'S CLEAR WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO LAND.

AND I THINK IT IS A STRONG EXPECTATION THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD LAND VERY MUCH WITHIN THAT CONFINES.

THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE BUT I DON'T THINK THAT EITHER PARTY IS NEARLY AS UNIFIED AS THEY EXPECT.

AND WE'VE ALSO SEEN THAT BOTH PARTIES BUT ESPECIALLY IN THE REPUBLICAN TICKET IN STATES YOU HAVE REGISTERED REPUBLICANS INCLUDING IN KENTUCKY THAT SHOWED UP AND VOTED FOR DEMOCRATS THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER GOING FORWARD.

>> Renee: DAVID TANDY YOUR THOUGHTS ON PROJECT 2025 AND WHERE VICE-PRESIDENT NOW THE PRESIDENTIAL DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE KAMALA HARRIS STANDS?

DO WE KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT WHAT SHE STANDS FOR?

THERE WAS TALK OF HOPE AND CHANGE AND JOY BUT BEYOND THE IT, THE SUPER ACTIVES WHERE IS THE SUBSTANCE?

>> LET ME DEAL WITH PROJECT 2025.

THE RHETORIC THAT YOU ARE HEARING FROM DONALD TRUMP AND FROM MEMBERS OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ARE WHO ARE YOU GOING TO BELIEVE?

ME OR YOUR LYING EYES.

WITH THIS.

WE HAVE J.D.

VANCE WHO IS THE NEW VICE-PRESIDENTIAL PICK FOR DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE HIS PREVIOUS VICE-PRESIDENT IS NOT ENDORSING HIM BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6TH.

AND WHO WROTE J.D.

VANCE WROTE THE FORWARD FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION WHO WROTE HIS BOOK WHO WROTE PROJECT 2025.

YOU'VE GOT STEVEN MILLER WHO WAS DONALD TRUMP'S REBOUND MAN AS IT RELATES TO HIS CRAZY PLAY AND THOUGHTS AND PLANS FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH IMMIGRATION WRITING THE SECTIONS IN THIS PROJECT 2025.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, AGAIN, TRY TO SPIN IT HOWEVER THEY WANT TO.

THIS IS THE REPUBLICAN PLAYBOOK THAT ON DAY ONE, IF DONALD TRUMP WAS ELECTED THEY ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT.

SO IT'S RIGHT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND TO BRING IT TO THE FOREFRONT AND LET PEOPLE MAKE THEIR OWN DETERMINATION.

AS IT RELATES TO KAMALA HARRIS AND PEOPLE KNOWING WHO SHE IS, I THINK EVERYBODY GOT A CLEAR VISION AS IT IS TO WHO SHE IS.

AND WHAT TYPE OF LEADER SHE WILL BE.

THE THOUGHT THAT SOMEONE CANNOT EVOLVE AND IMPROVE AND GET BETTER OVER THE COURSE OF THEIR LIFE AND CAREER, IS A FALSE ONE.

I WOULD CHALLENGE ANYONE TO HEAR LISTENING TO THIS PROGRAM TO ASK THEMSELVES ARE YOU THE SAME PERSON THAT YOU WERE AND DID YOU HOLD THE SAME BELIEFS THAT YOU HELD BEFORE WHEN YOU WERE 25 THAT YOU HOLD RIGHT NOW?

AND I WOULD SAY HONESTLY ALL OF US IF WE ARE TO BE TRUE TO OURSELVES, WE EVOLVE OVER TIME AND WE GET BETTER WITH IT.

SO IT DOESN'T MEAN ONE POSITION THAT I HAD YESTERDAY NEEDS TO BE THE SAME POSITION THAT I HAVE TODAY.

I SAY NOT TO SAY THAT KAMALA HARRIS IS FLIP FLOPPING ON ISSUES, NO.

THAT IS NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING.

WHEN IT COMES TO IT WAS SAID THAT THE REPUBLICANS TALKED ABOUT WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO AT THE BORDER, WE HAD A BIPARTISAN IMMIGRATION BILL THAT WAS READY TO GO THAT WAS DRAFTED BY SENATOR COTTON OF OKLAHOMA ONE OF THE MOST CONSERVATIVE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, HAD IT WRITTEN, HAD THE SUPPORT BUT BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT HELP DONALD TRUMP'S POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE A WIN TO JOE BIDEN, HE HAD FOLKS KILL THE BILL.

AND THEREFORE WE DON'T HAVE THE IMMIGRATION ISSUE ADDRESSED TODAY.

SO WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH THAT AND WHERE SHE STANDS AS IT RELATES TO FOREIGN POLICY.

AND STANDING WITH UKRAINE AND BEING A ALLY TO NATO AND STANDING WITH OUR ALLIES AND BEING A FOE TO THOSE WHO ARE DETRACTTERS THAT WE DON'T SHE WILL STAND UP TO OUGHT CONTRACTS ALL AROUND THE WORLD WHETHER IT BE VLADIMIR PUTIN OR XI JINPING OR WHOMEVER AROUND THE WORLD.

WE KNOW WHERE DONALD TRUMP STANDS BECAUSE HE HAS SHOWN IT TO US TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

I THINK, AGAIN, YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR OPENING THAT PEOPLE DON'T START PAYING ATTENTION TO CAMPAIGNS UNTIL AFTER LABOR DAY AND THAT IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

AND I THINK AS WE GO ALONG WITH THIS, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO AGAIN SEE THE RESOLVE THAT KAMALA HARRIS HAS SHOWN IN THE PAST.

THAT THEY ARE NOW PAYING ATTENTION TO GOING FORWARD.

>> Renee: SOME HAVE SAID AFTER HER SPEECH ON THURSDAY NIGHT THAT SHE SEEMED TO BE MOVING TO THE CENTER.

JARED, DO YOU AGREE THAT MAYBE SHE'S TRYING TO MODERATE SOME OF THOSE PERCEIVED LIBERAL POSITIONS OF THE PAST?

>> WHEN YOU REPRESENT CALIFORNIA YOU REPRESENT THE NEEDS AND INTERESTS OF THE PEOPLE YOUR CONSTITUENTS, CALIFORNIA IS A LIBERAL STATE.

NO HIDING THAT.

NOW SHE WANTS TO REPRESENT EVERYBODY SO SHE NEEDS TO ADJUST HER VIEWS AND WHERE SHE STANDS ON THINGS SO SHE CAN REPRESENT EVERYBODY.

I THINK ANOTHER BIG THING GOING BACK TO WHAT ABBEY SAID ABOUT REPUBLICANS WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF THE NEVER TRUMPERS SAY THEY WILL NOT VOTE IN THE ELECTION.

THERE'S 10 OR SO FORMER REPUBLICAN WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS THAT ENDORSED KAMALA HARRIS AND NOT A SINGLE CABINET SECRETARY FROM TRUMP'S TERM HAS ENDORSED HIM.

AND THE VICE-PRESIDENT HASN'T ENDORSED HIM AND I THINK THAT'S POLITICS IS ABOUT ADDING TO THE PIE NOT SUBTRACTING FROM THE PIE.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE TRUMP MOVEMENT IS SUBTRACTING FROM THE PIE.

WHILE VICE-PRESIDENT HARRIS IS ADDING TO THE PIE.

>> I SAY R.F.K.

JR. WAS A BIG ADDITION FOR US TODAY.

A GAME OF ADDITION NOT SUBTRACTION.

SOMETIMES YOU LOSE PEOPLE AND YOU WIN MORE PEOPLE.

IT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HERE IS TRYING TO REDEFINE WHO KAMALA HARRIS IS.

YOU KNOW NOW SHE IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.

LET US NOT FORGET SHE HAS BEEN VICE-PRESIDENT FOR THREE-AND-A-HALF YEARS.

SHE OWNS THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION'S POLICIES.

SHE IS JUST AS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH INFLATION AND WHAT IS GOING ON ATED BORDER.

YOU MENTIONED THAT SHE HAS CLEARLY DEFINED WHAT SHE IS GOING TO DO, WHY HASN'T SHE DONE IT?

SHE WAS THE BORDER CZAR AND SHE HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING.

WE HAVE 10 MILLION ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IN OUR COUNTRY AND CRIME IS SOARING AND GOING BACK TO THE REPUBLICAN CONVENTION WE TALKED ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO FIX IT.

WE TALKED ABOUT CRIME.

AND SUPPORTING OUR POLICE OFFICERS.

WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THESE ISSUES.

AND, AGAIN, ALL I SAW WAS HER NOT OWNING UP TO HER BEING VICE-PRESIDENT FOR THE PAST THREE-AND-A-HALF YEARS.

YEAH, SHE REPRESENTED CALIFORNIA.

BUT SHE HAS REPRESENTED ALL THE PEOPLE FOR THREE-AND-A-HALF YEARS.

AND HAS NOT DONE A SINGLE THING.

AND STILL REFUSES TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

I THINK LET'S ALL PRAY AFTER LABOR DAY SHE IS HAVING TO ANSWER FOR POSITIONS SHE IS TAKING AND HOW SHE WANTS TO MOVE THE COUNTRY FORWARD.

>> Renee: JARED, WHAT IS THE POLITICAL CALCULUS BY NOT BEING AVAILABLE TO THE MEDIA.

>> SHE IS AVAILABLE SHE IS THE VICE-PRESIDENT.

>> Renee: SHE HAS NOT DONE A SIT DOWN INTERVIEW WITH A BIG LEAGUE.

>> DONALD TRUMP DONE ONE?

HE SAT DOWN FOR ONE AND INSULTED THE ROOM AND DID NOT TAKE A QUESTION AND TALKED FILIBUSTER FOR THE HOUR.

YOU KNOW, TRUMP KILLED THE BORDER DEAL YOU CANNOT BLAME THAT ON THE VICE-PRESIDENT.

AND LIEUTENANT GOVERNORS DO NOT GET THE SAY IN THE ROOM.

THE PRESIDENT MAKES THE DECISION.

>> Renee: WHEN SHE BECAME THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE THERE WERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HER TO TALK WITH THE PRESS.

>> YES.

AND SHE'LL SIT DOWN SOON.

SHE SAID SHE WILL.

>> Renee: TO THE POINT -- >> HAVING TRUMP SAY THAT SOMEBODY IS NOT TALKING TO THE PRESS IS RICH IT'S REALLY RICH.

BECAUSE HE DOES NOT TALK TO THE PRESS.

>> HE DOES IT EVERYDAY.

>> Renee: HE DID HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE IN ARIZONA.

>> ALL THE TIME.

HE WILL TAKE QUESTIONS ALL THE TIME.

>> DAVID TANDY.

>> YES.

WITH DONALD TRUMP DOES A PRESS CONFERENCE LET'S BE VERY CLEAR HE GOES ON "FOX NEWS" OR THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN HAND PICKS WHO IS IN THE ROOM INTERVIEWING HIM.

HE DOESN'T LET EVERYBODY IN THERE.

AND THEN WHEN HE DOES DO AN INTERVIEW WITH OTHERS THERE IS A REASON WHY HE WANTED TO PULL OUT OF THE DEBATE ON ABC BECAUSE HE DID NOT LIKE GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS OR THE REPORTERS BECAUSE THEY ARE NASTY PEOPLE.

OR WHATEVER HE WANTS TO CALL THEM FOR THAT DAY.

SO ONE, I THINK THAT IS A RED HERRING THAT AGAIN, A LOT OF MY REPUBLICAN FRIENDS LIKE TO TRY TO PULL UP.

WELL, WE'RE NOT TALKING TO THE PRESS.

I COME FROM A ADAGE I WOULD RATHER SEE A SERMON THAN HEAR A SERMON.

WHAT YOU WILL ARE STARTING TO SEE ROLLING OUT MORE AND MORE WITH THE CAMPAIGN, AND REALIZING AGAIN, THAT PEOPLE START TO PAY ATTENTION TO CAMPAIGNS AFTER LABOR DAY, YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE MORE AND MORE POLICY POSITIONS BEING LAID OUT SHOWING HOW THAT HOW THE HARRIS-WALZ TICKET IS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE KITCHEN TABLE ISSUES THAT EVERYDAY KENTUCKIANS AND EVERYDAY AMERICANS HAVE CONCERN ABOUT.

AND ADDRESSING THOSE.

AS OPPOSED TO ADDRESSING PAST GRIEVANCES THAT DONALD TRUMP MAY HAVE ABOUT HIMSELF AND FOR REALLY IT'S ALL ABOUT HIMSELF.

>> Renee: ABBY PIPER TO YOU NOW, DURING THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION WE DIDN'T HEAR THEM TALK ABOUT INFLATION, DIDN'T TALK ABOUT BIDEN NO, MA'AM KNICKS THEY WERE NOT MENTIONED?

>> WELL, I THINK THE IMPORTANT PART TO REMEMBER HERE IS JUST THAT CONGRESS IS JUST AS MUCH TO BLAME OR TO CREDIT FOR ANYTHING TO DO WITH INFLATION.

ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ECONOMY FOR THE BORDER.

I MEAN THIS IS NOT A SINGLE -- WE DON'T LIVE IN AN AUTOCRACY IN A COMMUNIST SOCIETY THIS IS A GROUP EFFORT.

GOVERNMENT IS DIFFICULT IT'S HARD IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FUN.

AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, TOO.

AND THAT IS WHY I THINK YOU WILL SEE PEOPLE NOT CHECK A BOX ON THE PRESIDENTIAL BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY IT MATTERS BUT CONGRESS MATTERS JUST A MUCH.

>> Renee: DO YOU THINK THAT THEY WILL BE ENGAGED ON THE CONGRESSIONAL AND OTHER HIGH RANKING OFFICES OTHER THAN PRESIDENT THEY ARE GOING TO SKIP THE PRESIDENTIAL BOXER AND GO DOWN BALLOT?

>> I DO.

I THINK THEY WILL VOTE LOCALLY.

ALL POLITICS ARE LOCAL AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE THINGS THAT AFFECT OUR LIVES ARE DECIDED LOCALLY OR THE STATE LEVEL.

THEY WILL BE INVOLVED IN THE CONGRESSIONAL WORK BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO GET TO KNOW THOSE CANDIDATES TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY STAND FOR AND THEY ARE LESS LIKELY TO BE ABLE TO WAFFLE ON THE ISSUES BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GO BACK HOME AND GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND LOOK CONSTITUENTS IN THE EYE.

AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL YOU ARE INLATED FROM THAT.

>> Renee: K.C.

CROSBIE WHAT IS THE DRIVING THEME OR POINT THAT A FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP CAN SAY TO WHETHER IT IS AFTER AND DECIDED OR A DISAFFECTED REPUBLICAN WHO PERHAPS DOESN'T PARTICULARLY CARE FOR SOME OF HIS PERSONALITY TRAITS BUT MAYBE DOES AGREE WITH THE POLICIES THAT HE WAS ABLE TO GET THROUGH DURING HIS FOUR YEARS, WHY DOES HE DESERVE A SECOND TERM?

>> WHEN WE LOOK BACK UNDER TRUMP'S LAST ADMINISTRATION I THINK MOST PEOPLE THAT I TALK TO IN KENTUCKY AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY, I'VE EXPERIENCED IN MY HOUSEHOLD OUR LIVES WERE BETTER UNDER TRUMP.

I WASN'T GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE AND PAYING 50% MORE FOR BREAD AND MILK AND EGGS.

I COULD TRAVEL MORE.

I WASN'T WORRIED ABOUT PAYING FOR MY KID'S COLLEGE I WASN'T WORRIED ABOUT MY KID'S FUTURE AND UNDER THE PAST FOUR YEARS PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT POCKETBOOK ISSUES AND ULTIMATELY IT'S GOING TO BE DRIVING FORCES WITH THE ECONOMY.

THE BORDER AND PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND THOSE ARE THREE AREAS THAT DONALD TRUMP HANDS ABOVE HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND PEOPLE FELT BETTER UNDER HIS ADMINISTRATION THAN THEY HAVE IN THE PAST FOUR YEARS.

>> Renee: REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS WOO HE HEARD ABOUT THAT AT DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION A LOT OF STATES ARE DEALING WITH THIS.

HOW DOES THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN PLAN TO ENGAGE IN THAT ISSUE?

>> WELL, I THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN CLEAR ON HIS POSITION ON REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS.

HE HAS SAID HE SUPPORTS EXCEPTIONS AND IT IS A STATE'S ISSUE.

HE HAS BEEN CLEAR ON THAT AND LEAVING IT UP TO THE STATES.

>> Renee: THE DEMOCRATS PAINTED IT AS BEING WHEN DONALD TRUMP IS AWARDED A SECOND TERM HE WILL PUSH FORWARD A NATIONAL BAN ON ABORTION AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH CONGRESS IS THAT TRUE OR FALSE.

>> .

>> THAT IS WHAT THEY SAY BUT IT'S FALSE.

HE SAID YESTERDAY, AND SAID THAT HE WOULD NEVER DO THAT.

SO YOU KNOW, AGAIN, HE HAS PUBLICLY STATED HE DOES NOT SUPPORT THAT.

HE WOULD NOT DO THAT.

HE'S BEEN CLEAR ON HIS POSITION.

THE DEMOCRATS THINK THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN WIN SO THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

THEY ARE LIE BEING HIS POSITION.

HE PUBLICLY STATED WHAT HIS POSITION IS.

AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE THAT LIES ONLY GET YOU SO FAR.

>> Renee: DOES A FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP HAVE A PERCEPTION OF BEING A TRUTH TELLER WHICH HE HE SAYS I AM NOT GOING TO DO THIS DO YOU THINK THERE IS A PROBLEM IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY OR VOTERS TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY HEAR FROM DONALD TRUMP?

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

>> Renee: WHAT SAY YOU?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE COMMENT THAT THINGS WERE BETTER UNDER TRUMP.

UNEMPLOYMENT WAS AN ALL-TIME HIGH.

RECORD OF AMERICANS WERE DYING EACH DAY.

BIDEN CAME IN AND CLAMMED DOWN ON COVID INFLATION IS 3% TODAY.

AND THE FEDS WILL CUT RATES IN NOVEMBER.

GAS PRICES ARE 3.20.

I DON'T KNOW I DON'T UNDERSTAND OF COURSE YOU CAN TALK ABOUT INFLATION IT'S 3% AND GOING DOWN.

REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS AND TALKING ABOUT SURVIVING MASS SHOOTINGS THINGS THAT POLL HIGHLY IN THIS COUNTRY.

WHEN IT WAS BIDEN AND TRUMP 75% OF AMERICANS WANTED A CHANGE AND THEY GOT ONE.

AND WE'LL HAVE TO SEE -- ALSO YOU KNOW, VICE-PRESIDENT FOUND OUT 30 DAYS SHE HAD TO PUT TOGETHER A PRESIDENTIAL TEAM.

I'VE RUN CAMPAIGNS, TALKING TO THE PRESS IS NOT THE FOURTH THING THEY ARE GOING TO DO WHEN YOU FIRST START LIKE SHE DID IN AN UNPRECEDENTED WAY.

THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME.

SHE WILL BE VETTED.

THE BOOKS WILL COME OUT.

WE'LL SEE.

>> Renee: WELL, AND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT WHAT WAS DISCUSSED A LOT DURING THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION, HOUSING WAS MENTIONED BUT THE REAL POCKETBOOK ISSUES YOU CAN SAY INFLATION IS 3% AND GAS PRICES HAVE GONE DOWN TO A POINT THAT THEY WEREN'T TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO BUT THE AVERAGE PERSON IN THEIR HOME IS STILL WORRIED ABOUT THE THINGS THAT K.C.

CROSBIE MENTIONED AND THE KAMALA HARRIS-WALZ TICKET HAS YET TO PUT FORTH A PLAN THAT ADDRESSES THOSE CONCERNS?

>> WE FOUND OUT PRICE GOUGING BY CORPORATIONS.

THEY HAVE BEEN CAUGHT DOING IT AND THEY HAVE TO LOWER THE PRICES AND SHE CAUGHT FIRE FOR TALKING ABOUT THAT IS SOMETHING SHE WANTED TO HANDLE.

AT THE CONVENTION SHE SAID THAT.

I THINK THAT AMERICA IS BETTER OFF NOW THAN IT WAS UNDER TRUMP AND AT THE END THAT IS GOING TO LAY THE MIND IN THE SEVEN STATES THAT WILL DECIDE THIS ELECTION AND THE 120,000 PEOPLE THAT WILL DECIDE THE ELECTION.

>> Renee: 120,000 THAT WILL DECIDE THE ELECTION?

>> TO JARED'S POSITION WITH THE INFLATION AND THE PRICE GOUGING THAT YOU ARE SEEING SOME OF THE PRICES, BECAUSE FOR ONE, LIKE IN OUR HOUSEHOLD I DO A LOT OF THE GROCERY SHOPPING AND I PICK UP THE KIDS FROM SCHOOL AND YOU TAKE THEM TO GET SOMETHING TO EAT ON THEIR WAY HOME AND YOU NOTICING A DIFFERENCE IN PRICING.

IF YOU USE MCDONALD'S AS AN EXAMPLE, WHEN BACK IN THE DAY YOU WOULD LET BEFORE -- BEFORE COVID, YOU COULD GO TO HAVE A FAST FOOD MEAL YOU WEREN'T GOING TO SPEND MUCH MORE THAN $10 ON IT AT MOST.

TOP OF THE LINE, YOU WOULDN'T PUT DOUBLE CHEESE AND BACON ON YOUR BURGER.

NOW YOU HAVE PRICES WHERE GOING TO MCDONALD'S OR A WENDY'S IS AS EXPENSIVE AS GOING TO A SIT DOWN RESTAURANT.

AND SO THEN WHAT YOU ARE STARTING TO SEE NOW AND PEOPLE ONCE THESE CORPORATIONS STARTED GETTING CALLED OUT ON WAIT A MINUTE WE UNDERSTOOD WHEN THERE WAS COVID AND SHORTAGES YOU MAY HAVE TO RAISE YOUR PRICES BECAUSE THERE WAS A SCARCITY.

AND NOW WE'RE BACK TO FULL OPERATIONS THINGS ARE FLOWING AT THE PROPER WAY THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO, TRADE IS HAPPENING THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO AROUND THE WORLD AND YET I'M SITTING HERE TRYING TO PAY $15, $20 FOR A MEAL?

THAT'S CRAZY.

AND THAT IS WHY YOU STARTED TO SEE IF YOU PAY ATTENTION TO LIKE YOUR MCDONALD'S YOUR WENDY'S ALL THE PLACES OFFER THE $5 MEALS BECAUSE CONSUMERS WERE LIKE FORGET THIS THIS IS CRAZY.

AND I THINK THAT IS THE CORE THAT THE CORE THAT KAMALA HARRIS HAS STRUCK WHEN SHE SAID AS SHE DID AS ATTORNEY GENERAL, THE TYPE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT ACTUALLY DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTED WHEN HE WROTE HER A CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION SUPPORTING HER WHEN SHE WAS RUNNING FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL OF CALIFORNIA, WE'LL LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT AS WELL, THAT YOU CAN GO AFTER THE LARGE CORPORATIONS AND KEEP THEM IN CHECK AT THE BENEFIT OF EVERYDAY WORKING PEOPLE AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING GOING FORWARD IN A HARRIS-WALZ ADMINISTRATION.

>> Renee: THERE IS A LOT OF CONVERSATION AS EVERY PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION ABOUT THE YOUTH VOTE.

AND SO ABBY PIPER I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT AND NOT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE THE CZAR ON THE YOUTH VOTE, BUT AS YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT THE CAMPAIGNS HAVE TO OFFER, WHERE DO YOU SEE THAT PERHAPS YOUTH MAYBELLINING TOWARD?

>> WELL, WE SEE A LOT OF SKEPTICISM IN YOUNG PEOPLE GENERALLY RIGHT NOW.

THEY HAVE BEEN HANDED A WORLD WHERE THERE'S UNCERTAINTY NOT UNLIKE OTHER GENERATIONS WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST BUT IT DOES MATTER.

AND YOU SEE STUDENTS WHO ARE RECORD-BREAKING TUITION TO GO TO COLLEGE.

WE SEE YOUNG PEOPLE STRUGGLING TO BUY A STARTER HOME.

WE SEE YOUNG PEOPLE UNPRECEDENTED RATES ON MEDICAID AND OTHER GOVERNMENT SERVICES.

BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT WE HAVE LIKE SEEN A REDUCTION OF THE MIDDLE CLASS.

I THINK YOUNG PEOPLE WILL BE SKEPTICAL OF BOTH SIDES.

I THINK THEY WANT TO SEE SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT THEIR DAILY LIVES.

AND YOU ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER YOUNG PEOPLE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH TIME TO BE INVOLVED IN POLITICS THEY ARE STARTING OUT CAREERS AND RAISING CHILDREN.

IT FEEDS TO BE A FOCUS ON REACHING INTO SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY THEY LIVE THEIR LIVES IF THEY ARE GOING TO SHOW UP AND BE INVOLVED AT THE BALLOT.

>> Renee: HOW IS THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN TRYING TO CATER TO THE YOUTH'S CONCERNS?

>> I HAVE THREE YOUNG PEOPLE ALL VOTING AGE.

AND I'VE SEEN A TREMENDOUS SHIFT WITH WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE THE YOUNG VOTERS, 26 TO ABOUT THE 20 RANGE.

AND WHAT I AM SEEING IS THEY CARE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO FIND A JOB.

IT'S BEEN HARD FOR THE KIDS TO FIND JOBS.

AND A JOB TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE LIFE WHERE THEY CAN BUY A HOUSE, BUY A CAR AND SUPPORT A FAMILY.

THERE'S BEEN A SHIFT FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IN THAT THE YOUTH ARE LOOKING MORE AT SORT OF THE POCKETBOOK ISSUES AS WELL AND HOW THAT IMPACTS THEM FOR THEIR FUTURES.

SO I THINK WE SEE A SHIFT.

AND FRANKLY I THINK THAT THE PLATFORM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY PASSED AND DONALD TRUMP'S WEBSITE IS CLEAR WHERE HE STANDS ON THESE ISSUES.

SO THEY DO THEIR RESEARCH AND UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE CANDIDATES.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE A SHIFT AND WE'RE STARTING TO SENSE A SHIFT WITH THE YOUNGER GENERATION TOWARDS DONALD TRUMP.

>> Renee: LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT THE NUMBER TWO BRINGS TO THE TICKET.

I HAD YOU ON BEFORE ALL OF THESE THINGS HAPPENED AND EVOLVED.

LOOKING BACK ON IT NOW, HAD THERE BEEN A CRYSTAL BALL TO KNOW THAT KAMALA HARRIS WAS GOING TO BE THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE.

WOULD A DONALD TRUMP HAVE BEEN SERVED BETTER BY HAVING A DIFFERENT RUNNING MATE OTHER THAN VANS.

>> .

>> I DON'T THINK SO WE ARE THRILLED ABOUT J.D.

VANCE.

HE WILL BE IN KENTUCKY NEXT WEEK.

WE'RE EXCITED TO WELCOME HIM HERE.

HE IS GREAT AT RETAIL POLITICS AND HE HAS A GREAT STORY.

HE CAME FROM NOTHING.

HIS MOTHER WAS ADDICTED TO DRUGS.

HE EXPERIENCED WHAT SO MANY FAMILIES HAVE BEEN THROUGH.

HE SERVED IN THE MILITARY HONORABLY.

HE PUT HIMSELF THROUGH SCHOOL.

AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE IMPRESSED WITH HIS BACKGROUND AND HIS RECORD.

AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO CHANGE ANYTHING WITH THAT PICK THERE.

>> Renee: AND WE'VE DISCUSSED, TOO, IN A SEPARATE INTERVIEW ABOUT THE REHASH OF INTERVIEWS HE HAS DONE WHERE HE TALKED ABOUT CHILDLESS CAT LADIES AND WHETHER THEY SHOULD HAVE THE SAME POWER OF THEIR VOTE, DOES THAT CONCERN YOU AT ALL?

PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE FEMALE VOTE AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE SINGLE OR NOT?

HOW THEY WOULD PERCEIVE COMMENTS LIKE THAT?

>> WHEN WE TALK WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF CONTEXTUAL THINGS AROUND COMMENTS AND I THINK THAT WE HAD TO LOOK AT WHAT THE CONTEXT WAS AND WHAT HIS TRUTH WAS AT THE TIME WHEN THE COMMENTS WERE MADE.

I THINK Mr. TANDY SAID IT BEST, SOMETIMES PEOPLE EVOLVE OVER TIME.

AND I THINK YOU SEE THAT ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM.

I THINK MUCH DIFFERENTLY NOW ABOUT THINGS THAN I DID WHEN I WAS SERVING ON THE LEXINGTON CITY COUNCIL.

PEOPLE EVOLVE AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE CONTEXT AND BACKGROUND TO WHEN COMMENTS WERE MADE.

WE'RE PROUD TO HAVE J.D.

VANCE ON THE TICKET AND WE SUPPORT HIM.

>> Renee: WHAT ABOUT COACH WALZ AS HE HAS BEEN CALLED?

>> AS A JADED DEMOCRAT CAN I TALK ABOUT THE YOUTH VOTE?

>> Renee: SURE.

>> THIS YOUTH VOTE I HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT BUT NEVER SEE.

SO YOU KNOW, TAYLOR SWIFT WHEN SHE ASKED EVERYBODY TO REGISTER TO VOTE IT BROKE THE RECORD FOR SINGLE DAY VOTER REGISTRATION.

SOMEONE WHO HAS THAT POWER BUT THE QUESTION IS ARE THEY GOING TO SHOW UP?

AND THAT IS THE QUESTION EVERY ELECTION.

>> Renee: DO THEY HISTORICALLY SHOW UP?

>> NO, THEY DO NOT.

>> Renee: WHEN IS THE LAST TIME THEY SHOWED UP IN NUMBERS?

>> OBAMA.

>> AND THE ENERGY AS YOU'VE SAID THAT THE ENERGY AT THE CONVENTION IN CHICAGO, THAT MIGHT STILL TRANSLATE THIS TIME AROUND DO YOU THINK THAT IS GOING TO HELP THE YOUTH VET?

>> WE'LL SEE.

WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE PODCAST YOU CAN'T RECREATE THE OBAMA COALITION I THINK YOU CAN AND YOU SAW THAT AT THE CONVENTION NOW CAN WE HOLD IT TO ELECTION DAY?

THAT IS A DIFFERENT STORY.

COACH WALZ, I MEAN, THE MAN IS A HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER.

A FOOTBALL COACH HE HAS DONE BUS DUTY.

HE IS A REAL MAN.

AND IT'S JUST LIKE HE'S DONE BUS DUTY AND KAMALA HARRIS WORKED AT MCDONALD'S IN DC AND THAT IS REFRESHING TO HAVE A TICKET THAT PEOPLE EXPERIENCED EVERYDAY LIFE FOR NORMAL AMERICANS.

DONALD TRUMP HAS NOT.

>> Renee: DAVID TANDY.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, WE TOUCH ON THE FIRST POINT WITH YOUTH VOTERS WHAT JARED WAS TALKING ABOUT, AND BUILDING THAT OBAMA COALITION AND YOU REMEMBER WHAT MADE THE YOUTH VOTE AND FOLKS WERE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

YOU CAN TELL THEY ARE EXCITED BY THE CONTENT THAT THEY CREATE.

YOU HAD SONGS COMING OUT AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE OLDER JADED FOLKS LIKE WHAT IS THAT?

THAT DOESN'T TRANSLATE INTO VOTES BUT IT DID TURNOUT TRANSLATE INTO THE TYPE OF VOTES NECESSARY TO PUT A BARACK OBAMA IN OFFICE.

WHAT YOU ARE SEEING NOW AND I CAN TELL YOU WHAT I SAW WHEN I WAS THERE IN CHICAGO, YOU HAD ALL THE DIFFERENT CONTENT CREATORS THAT PRODUCE ALL THIS STUFF ON THE INSTAGRAM AND THE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS THERE AND THAT CREATIVE CLASS IS VERY MUCH ENGAGED AND ENERGIZED AND IT DOES HAVE PAY DIVIDENDS NOW THE PARENT OF A 20-YEAR-OLD OR A 16-YEAR-OLD AND A 15-YEAR-OLD NOW I HEAR MYSELF SOUNDING LIKE MY PARENTS WELL, I DON'T UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE STUFF THAT IS GOING ON BUT IT'S COMING FROM THOSE CONTENT CREATORS AND YOU ARE SEEING THAT ENERGY CHANGE -- TAKING PLACE TODAY.

AND I THINK THAT WILL PAY DIVIDENDS GOING FORWARD.

AND THE OTHER THING THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM '08 TO NOW IS THE WAY THAT VOTING OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO VOTE AND THE TIME SPAN TO BE ABLE TO VOTE HAS EXPANDED.

SO WHERE WE WERE RELYING UPON YOUNG PEOPLE TO PAY ATTENTION AND COME OUT ON ELECTION DAY TO VOTE.

AND NOW, YOU HAVE EARLY VOTING ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT VOTERS CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF INCLUDING YOUNG VOTERS THAT I THINK YOU WILL START TO SEE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AS WELL AND THAT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

>> Renee: Mr. TANDY ABOUT THE SPECIAL INFLUENCERS AND THE CONTENT CREATORS THEY HAD A PLUSH SUITE AT THE DNC IN CHICAGO WE WERE GIVEN A VIEW OF THAT.

AND PERHAPS THEY ARE USING A PLAYBOOK FROM OTHER POLITICIANS WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO CIRCUMVENT THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA AND USE THE CONTENT CREATORS WHO GET THIS ACCESS TO GET SOME OF THEIR PROPAGANDA ACROSS IT GOES BACK TO TRANSPARENCY IF YOU ARE NOT MEETING WITH THE MEDIA AND HELD RESPONSIBLE.

THERE IS A LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY THAT IS MISSING SO FAR.

AND SO WILL THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN LOOK TO SOCIAL INFLUENCERS AND CONTENTED CREATORS TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT AND BYPASS THE MEDIA ALTOGETHER EXCEPT LIKE A DEBATE.

>> I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO DO DEMOCRATS USUALLY WE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT OUR IDEAS AND WE DON'T HIDE FROM THEM.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT A CONTENT CREATORS DOES ON A YouTube CHANNEL.

I MAY THAT BE THE BEST PERSON TO ANSWER THIS.

>> Renee: THEY GET MILLIONS OF VIEWS.

>> AND MAKE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, TOO.

I THINK THE DEMOCRATS ARE LOOKING AT IF WE'RE GOING TO INVEST IN TURNING OUT THE YOUTH VOTE WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT?

AND IN THIS DAY AND AGE IT'S THE CONTENT CREATORS.

>> LET ME ASK HONESTLY, WE HAVE -- WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DEMOCRATS USING CONTENTED CREATORS AND OTHERS GETTING YOUR MESSAGE OUT THAT WAY VERSUS TRUMP AND THE MAGA REPUBLICAN MOVEMENT USING TRUTH SOCIAL AS THEIR VEHICLE OR WHAT IS IT?

OWN OR AND ALL THE OTHER CONSERVATIVE PLATFORMS AND PODCASTS TO GET THEIR MESSAGE OUT?

THEY ARE SPEAKING TO THEIR ECO-CHAMBER TO THEIR FOLKS AND YOU GET THE DIFFERENT CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT GET SPREAD AROUND IN THAT CHAMBER LIKE THAT.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE THERE?

AND ALSO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARD TO MEDIA HOLDING FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE, PART OF THIS THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU ARE GOING TO HOLD KAMALA HARRIS TO A CERTAIN STANDARD, THEN WE ASK THAT YOU HOLD DONALD TRUMP TO THE SAME STANDARD.

AS IT RELATES TO WHENEVER HE TELLS A MISS TRUTH AND I WILL BE KIND AND CALL IT A MISTRUTH, WAIT A MINUTE Mr. PRESIDENT THAT IS NOT TRUE.

AND THEN YOU POINT IT OUT AND THEN YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AND GO WITH IT FROM THERE.

SO YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET THEIR MESSAGE OUT AND PEOPLE WILL CONSUME INFORMATION IN THE VARIOUS WAYS THEY WILL BE ABLE TO CONSUME THEM.

AND I THINK THAT THE ENERGY THAT YOU ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW IN THIS CAMPAIGN THIS IS GOING TO BE A CLOSE ELECTION NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

THERE ARE TO JARED'S POINT THERE WILL BE A FEW HUNDRED,000 VOTES THAT WILL DECIDE THIS ACROSS FIVE TO SEVEN STATES IT WILL BE CRITICAL THAT PEOPLE GET OUT TO VOTE AND MAKE SURE VOICES HEARD.

AND ALSO TO BE HEARD NOT ONLY ON THE PRESIDENTIAL RACES BUT ALSO AS IT RELATES TO STATE HOUSE AND STATE SENATE AND CITY GOVERNMENT WHICH IS WHERE MY HEART IS AND KC'S HEART IS AS WELL ASI ASI IT RELATES TO THE FEDERAL HOUSE AND SENATE AS WELL.

>> Renee: WELL, WILL FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP ACCEPT THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION?

>> HE SAID HE WILL.

UNLESS THERE IS BLATANT CHEATING RIGHT NOW THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WE ARE SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO GET OUT THE VOTE AND TO PROTECT THE VOTE.

AND YOU'VE SEEN LAWSUIT AFTER LAWSUIT.

AND DECISIONS BEING MADE TO PROTECT THE VOTE.

AND IF THINGS ARE FAIR, ABSOLUTELY.

I DON'T SEE WHY WE WOULDN'T ACCEPT THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION.

I WANT TO COMMENT QUICKLY ABOUT ONE THING.

YOU ASKED ABOUT KAMALA HARRIS' CHOICE FOR VICE-PRESIDENT.

AND I WILL SAY I DIDN'T THINK WITH Mr. WALZ THAT SHE COULD PICK SOMEBODY AS DANGEROUSLY LIBERAL AS SHE IS AND WHEN YOU LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENED IN MINNESOTA WE TALKED ABOUT REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS.

THIS ISN'T LIKE EXCEPTIONS.

THIS IS THE EXTREME UP TO NINE MONTHS OF ABORTIONS ALLOWED UP TO NINE MONTHS.

HE LET HIS CITIES BURN, BUSINESSES SUFFERED THERE.

I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS TRULY POSSIBLE TO PICK SOMEBODY AS DANGEROUSLY LIBERAL AS SHE IS.

THEM COMBINED WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE PEOPLE FALL ONCE THEY LEARN MORE ABOUT BOTH RECORDS.

>> Renee: YOUR RESPONSE?

>> AGAIN, IT IS A GOOD TICKET.

GOVERNOR WALZ BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED WAS THEY TOLD VICE-PRESIDENT AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY THINK SHE CAN WIN THE RACE NO MATTER WHO SHE PICKED.

AND ALSO, NANCY TATE AND JEFFERIES WANTED MORE HOUSE INFLUENCE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

BIDEN RELIED ON THE SENATE CONNECTIONS AND THEY DIDN'T USE THE HOUSE.

SO HE WAS A 10-YEAR HOUSE MEMBER SO SHE FEELS MORE COMFORTABLE BECAUSE SHE HAS HER SENATE CONNECTIONS.

I WILL BE HONEST HE CAN DO SOMETHING THAT THE DEMOCRAT PARTY HAD A HARD TIME DOING TALK TO RURAL WHITE, NON-EDUCATED VOTERS AND HE CAN DO THAT.

>> HE LOST THAT VOTE IN HIS STATE.

HE DIDN'T DO WELL IN THE RURAL COMMUNITIES THAT WASN'T HIS STRONGHOLD HE CAN TALK TO THEM BUT THEY WERE NOT SUPPORTING HIM LIKE THEY DID IN THE INNER-CITIES AND THAT IS WHY HE IS GOVERNOR.

BUT YOU KNOW, IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO DEFINE THAT TICKET BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH DANGEROUSLY LIBERAL.

AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS.

AND YOU KNOW, IT WILL BE INTERESTING JUST TO SEE HOW PEOPLE REACT ONCE THEY LEARN MORE ABOUT BOTH CANDIDATES.

>> Renee: ABBY PIPER GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES REMAINING TO GIVE US FINAL THOUGHTS FROM YOU ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING FOR BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER 5TH?

>> WELL, I WANT TO QUICKLY ADDRESS I THINK IT'S DISINGENUOUS TO CALL SOMEONE DANGEROUSLY LIBERAL ON THE TICKET WHEN THE OTHER SIDE ON THE TICKET, J.D.

VANCE ALIGNS WELL WITH THE PARTY PRIORITIES I'M NOT SURE I WOULD HAVE TAKEN THAT JOB CONSIDERING THE LAST PERSON THAT HELD THAT JOB UNDER DONALD TRUMP WAS DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO BEING LYNCHED IN THE CAPITOL.

THAT SEEMS LIKE IT IS A LITTLE BIT TOO FAR FOR ME.

I DO WANT TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT 2008 AND WHAT THE PARTIES WERE DOING AT THAT TIME.

I WAS A LIVE LONG REPUBLICAN AT THE TIME AND NOW I'M AN INDEPENDENT LEANING TO THE RIGHT.

I GRADUATED AROUND 2008 IN THAT RECESSION AND I KNOW KC HAS HER CHILDREN GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TRYING TO FIND CAREERS AND IT IS A VOLATILE TIME OF LIFE.

AT THAT TIME EVEN THOUGH IT WAS HARD TO FIND JOBS, THE GETTING INTO A TEACHING PROGRAM, GETTING INTO A NURSING PROGRAM THESE WERE ELITE PROGRAMS AT EVERY STATE AND UNIVERSITY THAT HAD THOSE PROGRAMS.

AND WE'VE SEEN THAT THOSE ARE NOW HIGH DEMAND AREAS WHERE NOBODY WANTS TO GO BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT BEING PAID A LIVING WAGE.

IF WE ARE GOING TO GET BACK TO BRASS TACKS WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON ENSURING THAT EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO A CAREER THAT MATTERS AND A CAREER THEY CAN AFFORD TO HOLD.

I THINK AS WE LOOK AT ALL THE NATIONAL POLITICS AND IT'S EASY FOR ALL OF US TALKING HEADS TO HAVE THE IDEAS AND OPINIONS THAT MAYBE DON'T MATTER BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S ABOUT FINDING A CANDIDATE THAT CAN MAKE SURE WE HAVE TEACHERS, AND POLICE, WE HAVE FIRE AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD AND MADE AMERICA GREAT.

I HOPE THAT WHATEVER CANDIDATE WE GET IS SOMEONE THAT FOCUSES DEEPLY ON REPAIRING THOSE TIES AND ENSURING WE HAVE A STRONG ECONOMY AND STRONG WORKFORCE FROM TOP TO BOTTOM.

>> Renee: WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE.

IT WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE FOR THIS IMPORTANT DISCUSSION AND WE'VE GOT MUCH MORE AS WE GET TO ELECTION DAY.

WE ARE OFF ON MONDAY FOR LABOR DAY BUT JOIN US EACH WEEKNIGHT AT 6:30 EASTERN FOR KENTUCKY EDITION WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THIS AND MORE.

AND BILL BRYANT IS HERE FRIDAY WITH A TEAM OF JOURNALISTS TO DISCUSS THE NEWS OF THE WEEK AT 8 EASTERN 7 CENTRAL.

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.

I'M RENEE SHAW.

TAKE GOOD CARE.